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obed
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 28
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Reply with quote | #1 |
Hi All,
I copied this from another discussion group
on religion.
I am self-styled social theorist here whose objective is to describe the social
structure that will enable human beings to live peacefully, cooperatively and
creatively.
There is a primary difference between true technology which always embodies the
fundamental principals of evolutionistic process (not to be confused with the
theory of evolution) and religion, which is that true technology is exactly
true for every human being on earth. Once the automobile is developed, it is
developed for human being and every human being can achieve exactly with an
automobile what anyone else can with an automobile - assuming parity of
opportunity and access. In other words, everyone can drive to the grocery store
but no one can drive a car to the moon.
Illusive technology, one type of which is religion fails the evolutionistic
principle of true technology,in that as technology it never achieves the same
for every human being, as say the car. What one can achieve with religion is
dependent on where one is relative to the religion - if one is wielding it as a
way to organize human beings it achieves a different effect than if one is
being organized by it. The example is the charismatic who swears he has his
fine house and wealth and received it and teaches that if those listening will
be so fortunate they will tithe and send the charismatic their money on behalf
of the lord and the lord will return ten times as much - and then when the
tither says it didn't work the charismatic says it was because the tither
didn't have a pure heart, wasn't really giving but was bargaining and the lord
doesn't take kindly to being bargained with. It works for one at the very same
instance it does not work for another. Another failure of religion is it
simply does not evolve. The ideas postured, the beliefs sought to be proved,
the ambitions to be achieved have not furthered one step in the recorded
history of human civilization. If human technology was as stagnant as religion
human beings would still be pondering how to get an axle between two wheels.
That isn't to say that religion is not a technology that doesn't evolve. It is
a very powerful technology, in its own right as powerful as the wheel, and it
is that is so powerful that it has gained a status of universality throughout
the human population just as the wheel has. But the device of religion is not
what religion is advertised to be - which is why I describe it as illusive
rather than false. That can be proven just by thinking again of that wheel.
Show me the wheel and instantly I get the wheel. Show me religion and tell me
what it will do and tell me how to do it and I will do exactly as you say and I
will not get the results promised. Now, show me how to wield religion as a
device to control and organize human beings to my own personal benefit and I
can enact that process and realize the predicted result.
Another element of true technology is that belief is an irrelevant component in
the successful application of any true technology. I can't by my belief make an
airplane not fly or make one crash. I can't by my belief stop a bullet fired
out of a gun toward my head veer direction. I can't run my car into wall and
ninety miles an hour and believe myself out of the impending consequences.
Emotions are just as irrelevant. Pissed off, happy, depressed, mourning,
estatic, thoughtful, melancholy and nervous people can each fly an airplane,
drive a car or pedal a bicycle. Illusive technologies always place great
emphasis on the beliefs and emotions and attribute them as causative. Rather
like John McCain, Bill Clinton, George Bush to name three have all been
described as very angry men with terrible tempers - exactly the opposite of
what we are led to believe when we are told their noble character is what makes
them fit to lead a character. Assholes can wield true technology just as deftly
as saints but are probably far more competent in the arena of wielding
illusive technology requires the ability to manipulate human beings bo one's
benefit without regard to what effect such manipulation will have on the
experience of those manipulate.
cheers |
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